Comments for "Future Crew : Second Reality (Assembly '93)" Video at VideoSift.com

By pho3n1x

pho3n1x (http://pho3n1x.videosift.com) — Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:49:46 -0800

looks like this one is going to die in the queue... nice. bah.

By hoju

hoju (http://www.videosift.com/member/hoju) — Sat, 18 Nov 2006 02:34:01 -0800

what a pile of crap. the funny thing is that you seem to think it's actually good. Go 1998 CGI!!! or whatever the fuck this is supposed to be...

By pho3n1x

pho3n1x (http://pho3n1x.videosift.com) — Sat, 18 Nov 2006 04:02:49 -0800

it IS good, and it's 1993. YOU try making a demo including 8bit sound, 2d and 3d rendering, and contain it all in 64k. and in 1993. so i suppose yes, that is a funny thing, considering that things like this paved the way for future CGI.
maybe you should post something better.

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Second Reality is a demo created by Future Crew for the Assembly '93 demoparty. In the PC demo competition, Second Reality placed first with its demonstration of 2D and 3D rendering. The demo was released to the public in October 1993. It is considered to be one of the best demos created during the early 1990s on the PC.
The effects produced by the demo exceeded what were widely believed to be the limits of PC hardware in 1993. Many techniques used by other demos, including Future Crew's own earlier work, were refined and reused in Second Reality. The demo had a soundtrack of Trance music composed by Skaven and Purple Motion using ScreamTracker 3. The degree of synchronization of the visuals with the music was highly impressive for its time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Reality

By Farhad2000

Farhad2000 (http://farhad.videosift.com) — Sat, 18 Nov 2006 04:23:05 -0800

Hoju, clearly not a science major.

By benjee

benjee (http://benjee.videosift.com) — Sat, 18 Nov 2006 06:39:40 -0800

You seem to have a bit of an attitude for a Sift n00b, Hoju:

"what a pile of crap. the funny thing is that you seem to think it's actually good. Go 1998 CGI!!! or whatever the fuck this is supposed to be"

You obviously know nothing of either programming, graphics or music (this pages layout and text alone [HTML] is 33 kilobytes - with the images it's 277 kb!) That's why this is impressive: especially as it was done thirteen years ago (not eight!)

P.S: Your empty profile comes in at 148 kb: all nine minutes of the video is 64 kb...

By pho3n1x

pho3n1x (http://pho3n1x.videosift.com) — Tue, 21 Nov 2006 11:24:15 -0800

oh noes! can i get a save from anyone? going once? going twice?

By ant

ant (http://www.videosift.com/member/ant) — Tue, 21 Nov 2006 15:32:45 -0800

Future Crew's 2nd Reality FTW. Still the best!

Use DOSbox if you want to watch it the true way! It works on modern machines.

By ant

ant (http://www.videosift.com/member/ant) — Tue, 21 Nov 2006 16:17:45 -0800

w00t. Finally! The last time I submitted, it didn't get votes.

By TickleMyElmo

TickleMyElmo (http://www.videosift.com/member/TickleMyElmo) — Tue, 21 Nov 2006 23:59:54 -0800

Why is this tagged "64K"? 2nd Reality was around 2 Megs.

It's amazing, and a legend in the scene, but they weren't competing for the smallest size on this one. It was one of the biggest demos ever released at that point.

By djsunkid

djsunkid (http://djsunkid.videosift.com) — Wed, 22 Nov 2006 00:44:43 -0800

I'm glad somebody else pointed out that there is no way this was a 64k demo.

Now, on the other hand we have Second Reality C64 which was a 1998 port of second reality to commodore 64.

This definitely was a turning point in my life. I was definitely considering sifting the c64 second reality, but I thought it would be too much of an inside joke. Similarly, somebody made Real Reality: a remake of Second Reality with props instead of computer generated imagery. It would have been much better with the original music. I really dislike their remake of the music.

By ant

ant (http://www.videosift.com/member/ant) — Wed, 22 Nov 2006 00:49:40 -0800

Yeah, the spoofs are shown in Wikipedia article. I remember watching the original demo on my new 486DX2/66.

By marinara

marinara (http://www.videosift.com/member/marinara) — Wed, 22 Nov 2006 00:53:47 -0800

***Piece of crap? Where's our angry racist shouting comedian?

I love the way-back machine!, I was never a member of the demo scene, but I knew how cool it was!

By Krupo

Krupo (http://krupo.videosift.com) — Wed, 22 Nov 2006 01:32:59 -0800

Oh wow, the 8 minute mark part is giving me BF: 2142 flashbacks - Berlin map...

The stirring response to an outburst of uninformed foolishness was both well played and fair - it's completely senseless to criticize a video in such a childish manner!

By Krupo

Krupo (http://krupo.videosift.com) — Wed, 22 Nov 2006 01:36:10 -0800

Aw heck, I want to see this on the top 15, where it deserves to be!

*promote!!!

By siftbot

siftbot (http://www.videosift.com/member/siftbot) — Wed, 22 Nov 2006 01:36:11 -0800

Re-promoting this video to the front page as a VideoSift Classic. Originally published on Tuesday 21st November 2006 (promotion called by gold star member krupo)

By ant

ant (http://www.videosift.com/member/ant) — Wed, 22 Nov 2006 01:38:43 -0800

Heh.

By pho3n1x

pho3n1x (http://pho3n1x.videosift.com) — Wed, 22 Nov 2006 02:02:56 -0800

oops, it is 2.0mb... i was thinking of the 4k / 64k comps they also have. this was just part of the pc demo comp.

By Laekroth

Laekroth (http://laekroth.videosift.com) — Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:41:16 -0800

Ooohhhhh this is an awesome piece of programming. I remember watching this demo over and over again back in the days... great stuff!

By Zifnab

Zifnab (http://zifnab.videosift.com) — Thu, 23 Nov 2006 16:11:42 -0800

Wow, this one takes me back. I remember watching this one over and over again and showing to all my friends. Great to see it again!

By ant

ant (http://www.videosift.com/member/ant) — Sat, 10 Feb 2007 03:42:49 -0800

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtCW-axRJV8 for another copy.

By siftbot

siftbot (http://www.videosift.com/member/siftbot) — Sat, 10 Feb 2007 03:43:46 -0800

Tags changed from "assembly, competition, demo" to "second reality, future crew, asm, 1993" by gold star member ant.

By Krupo

Krupo (http://krupo.videosift.com) — Sat, 17 Feb 2007 20:28:56 -0800

This is computer *animation, eh?

By siftbot

siftbot (http://www.videosift.com/member/siftbot) — Sat, 17 Feb 2007 20:28:57 -0800

Video added to animation channel (animation called by gold star member Krupo)

By ant

ant (http://www.videosift.com/member/ant) — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:25:30 -0800

Time to *promote, dude!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVPW40ygds4 (C64 port)

By siftbot

siftbot (http://www.videosift.com/member/siftbot) — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:25:31 -0800

Promoting this video back to the front page; last published Wednesday, November 22nd, 2006 1:36am PST - promote requested by ant.

By csstup

csstup (http://www.videosift.com/member/csstup) — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:41:21 -0800

For this and more old school PC demos, get a copy of the MindCandy DVD's. http://www.mindcandydvd.com

I have both Vol 1 (PC) and Vol 2 (Amiga).

By TickleMyElmo

TickleMyElmo (http://www.videosift.com/member/TickleMyElmo) — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:43:54 -0800

Watching a video of a demo is just wrong. The whole point of a demo is to be a showcase for realtime processing.

Do yourself a favour and try the real thing!

http://www.futurecrew.org/skaven/faq.html

By spoco2

spoco2 (http://www.videosift.com/member/spoco2) — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:14:15 -0800

The single greatest PC Demo ever... oh the amazement at this thing when it came out, the music is seared into my memory.

And I'm glad that hoju got the caning he deserved for the inane comment.

But yes, a little silly watching a video of it.

By ant

ant (http://www.videosift.com/member/ant) — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 12:33:48 -0800

Real Reality: http://www.videosift.com/video/Real-Reality-A-spoofparody-of-Future-Crews-2nd-Reality

By djsunkid

djsunkid (http://djsunkid.videosift.com) — Sun, 03 Feb 2008 01:34:00 -0800

It's too bad that the music sucks so bad on "real reality"

By ant

ant (http://www.videosift.com/member/ant) — Sun, 03 Feb 2008 01:37:51 -0800

djsunkid: I actually like the music, but it was so low quality.